Andy Austin's Metaphors of Movement

[MatthewH]

Hi, does anyone have any experience of Andy Austin's methodology?

http://realpeoplepress.com/blog/meta...vement#respond

What is different between this and clean/SM/Charles Faulkner's work?

Thank you

Matthew

[JamesLawley]

I've been in discussion with Andy on this very subject. He has now produced a blog called:

It Certainly Ain`t Clean - Metaphors of Movement and Clean Language

http://www.23nlpeople.com/blog/2011/...n-language.htm

When I get a chance I'll post some of my comments to Andy.

James

[Steve Saunders]

At the clean conference in 2008, I ran a seminar on 'emerging moving' - for the first time using the momentum language pattern with a large group.

And in the conventional sense it cannot be 'clean' because momentum eliminates the self-other object-oriented experience of metaphor, space and time. The self dissolves and one is being, but all are being and the interactions have no boundaries, resulting in group-dynamical emergences outside of normal linguistic description IMO.

Coupled with the effects experienced at the practice group, where we explored the 'analogue/cultural forms' of question patterns (see Penny's transcript on the PG thread), it is evident there are transpersonal experiences to be had that enhance the quality of life, and that the facilitation is going to be challenged as to its cleanliness in such explorations.

Steven

[JamesLawley]

When I get a chance I'll post some of my comments to Andy.

There were quite a few comments and I had a discussion with Steve Andreas on the same topic so I put them all together at:
http://www.cleanlanguage.co.uk/artic...ean/Page1.html

James