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    Noise mountain

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    An example of these white paintings can be seen here and other examples of his work here. Thanks to Anthony Williams for the link who quotes Rauschenberg thus:
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    I agree. Also using 'where' and 'whereabouts'...

    I agree. Also using 'where' and 'whereabouts' alternately and also in different places in the sentence can make repeated location questions sound less like an inquisition:
    "It's inside."...
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    There's a lot in there - might benefit split into...

    There's a lot in there - might benefit split into different posts?

    In your list of fundamentals, I would add Context and Environment.

    You say:

    I don't think we can state that as a fact. It...
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    "Ready for the upgrade, or still playing...

    "Ready for the upgrade, or still playing ostrich?" Hmm... that closed choice sounds a bit NLP-ish to me :) Good to see your book published, Steven, hope it goes well.
  5. ... because we think in terms of warfare, not...

    ... because we think in terms of warfare, not because the plants are engaged in warfare.



    Arrogance? I think I'm saying that it is the natural and easiest way for us to model our world, by...
  6. Nice question. Actually (i.e. I think :-) ) it's...

    Nice question. Actually (i.e. I think :-) ) it's more apposite and accurate to ask that of a human than to apply it in the metaphorical way Capra does to describe the effects on the bacteria to...
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    Sticky: other language models referred to as 'clean language'

    To add to the list of confusing decoys, there is also a computer language called Clean...

    I agree that as well as coming up with a mutually acceptable description of what we mean by 'clean...
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    Article: What's clean about Clean Language?

    You can view the page at http://www.cleanforum.com/forums/content.php?6-What-s-clean-about-Clean-Language
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    Sticky: What is 'clean' about Clean Language?

    As more people learn David Grove's Clean Language, it has been alleged that some want to take the language and not the clean, while retaining the association with the good reputation of David Grove...
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    ... the Tao...

    ... the Tao...
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    Tree will not, tree will not be moved Tree will...

    Tree will not, tree will not be moved
    Tree will not, tree will not be moved
    And like when fruits drop into flowing water,
    Your posts may still be moved.
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    So, Boris, we meet again... Don't try to escape,...

    So, Boris, we meet again... Don't try to escape, the place is surrounded... Hand over the microdot with the Essence of Englishness encoded on it... or we will have to introduce you to... the Morris...
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    There are multiple 'goals' or desired outcomes...

    There are multiple 'goals' or desired outcomes going on at any time. A useful distinction might be between the stated 'content' goal of a process (e.g. 'I want to be healthy') and the goal of...
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    How much? It's an interesting question. How bad...

    How much? It's an interesting question. How bad does something have to get before a person acts to heal themselves? Sometimes they just don't, ever.

    I suppose it depends on what is keeping...
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    I think perhaps I would tweak the description to...

    I think perhaps I would tweak the description to be "...brought into the same classification, we do right understanding."

    I think of it as a continuous/continual process, always new states...
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    'Pristine' will be in the eye of the beholder...

    'Pristine' will be in the eye of the beholder (perk of the perceiver?). I'm reminded of my early days in events, as manager of a small exhibition touring around Europe for an oil company. Our...
  17. Thread: Olive and us

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    Maybe the genes of the dance were in the sangrķa?...

    Maybe the genes of the dance were in the sangrķa? :)
  18. LOL I'm sure Bart is well-trained - and is there...

    LOL I'm sure Bart is well-trained - and is there anything else David said about you at other times, Steve, that didn't appear in your marketing post? :-)

    How did the festival go? Did you do...
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    I suppose opinion and projection are close to...

    I suppose opinion and projection are close to being synonyms here?

    Also some multiple options here for vice versas here - I found them quite enlightening to consider, especially the one's that on...
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    I think that statement comes across as more...

    I think that statement comes across as more definitive than is true in real life. Awareness of one's own patterns and some level of understanding of interactions between people can mitigate the...
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    Article: Clean Conference 2010

    You can view the page at http://www.cleanforum.com/forums/content.php?5-Clean-Conference-2010
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    Sounds like you were doing a good job and so was...

    Sounds like you were doing a good job and so was the client! My take is that the purpose of the process in Symbolic Modelling terms is to a) facilitate the client to self-model and b) to stay out of...
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    When I am being a Clean Language client, I tell...

    When I am being a Clean Language client, I tell myself that in the context of Clean Language 'know' is meant in as open and universal a way as possible, that I might find that answer in ANY way,...
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    One of the main effects and purposes of Clean...

    One of the main effects and purposes of Clean Language is to give the facilitator (A) a way to minimise the amount of his/her (inevitable) projection that gets transmitted to the client (B).

    I...
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    That's good news. It will be adding another...

    That's good news. It will be adding another perspective on David's work as well as explaining your own extensive work in the field, I imagine. The more perspectives, the better IMO (say, 6 at...
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