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    BBQ--Count me in!

    Caitlin,

    I loved the BBQ metaphor--it has everything a person could want. A friendly atmosphere, variety, sense of gathering together, freedom and flexibility whilst within some boundaries, and...
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    Thank You

    Caitlin,

    I really appreciated these videos. Your voice and presence were so positive and hopeful. My favorite was "How Do I Become." The focus was so clear and specific, I was amazed at the...
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    Hi, Phil,

    I'm glad you liked the poem (interspersed with my questions)--that's not the entire thing, but I put the most relevant parts. I've been thinking about your questions over the past few...
  4. Body Wholly Body

    Phil,

    Your metaphor of cleanforum as body reminded me of a favorite poem by Wallace Stevens: "The Idea of Order at Key West."

    Here are some of the metaphors from that poem that seem (to me)...
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    Scaling and Strange Worlds

    Steve,

    Thanks for your efforts to give me a "big picture" perspective. Very helpful, indeed!

    #4 in particular was a good overview of the interactions between each of David's developments.
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    Thank You Corrie

    Corrie,

    Thank you very much for sharing these notes. It is like having David speak to me again. These sentences are probably some of his last words, in a way. I cannot express how much it...
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    Exquisite Description of Metaphor in David's Later Work

    "Once I asked David if maybe metaphor modelling was no longer necessary. He then used the next client's session to show how metaphor combined with emergence.

    I echo Corrie that David still paid...
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    Why Predict?

    Why would one want to predict a client's answer anyway? Isn't the beauty of this work that things emerge from the client that surprise us or that are unexpected, just like the creative process? Seems...
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    Mia-2

    Hi, I wasn't able to go to the conference either (though it would have been in a spectator role anyway). I am glad to see the 2009 conference is going to be in September--airfare overseas will be...
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    Metaphor Therapy and Later Developments

    I'm glad to hear that some people are still using good, old-fashioned metaphor therapy.

    I think what I see missing in David's later work was the very careful cataloguing of an individual's...
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    I agree with most of Phil's definition and with...

    I agree with most of Phil's definition and with Corrie's edit, though I think it would be even better to say, "the degree to which one person is not contaminating another person by word, deed, or...
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    Cool

    Phil,

    Thanks for telling us about your experience. I was once in an anechoic chamber at university as part of a physics class. Unfortunately, I was in a rather large group of people at the...
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    Thank You

    Steve,

    Thanks for your response. The situation is more clear to me now.

    I hope you don't stop posting altogether. I'm sure I'm not the only one who greatly benefits from your insights and...
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    Please explain?

    Thanks for your notes, Corrie. You're right; how can you explain something unless I indicate what I didn't understand? Let's take it one post at a time, so I can digest this more easily.

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    Anechoic Chamber

    Yes, there is something about the walls absorbing all the sounds that is very clean, to me. Echoes can be confusing and disturbing, and at the very worst, distorting. Reverberations can interrupt the...
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    Multiple Strands

    This thread has become quite complex, interweaving the strands of clean space-time with emergence and multiple personality dynamic.

    It seems that David's work on emergence did not go as far as...
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    Pardon?

    Corrie,

    This is all very cryptic to me. Or maybe a better word is poetic. I can't make sense of it. Can you fill in some of the blanks? Give me a metaphor or two to go on?

    I don't think that...
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    Your Sun?

    Hi, Steve,

    Thanks for your reflections on projection and giving insight through a metaphor that I also could understand.

    What about your sun? Is there a sun in you that sees its reflection...
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    Clean questions or clean intentions?

    Phil,

    I'm not sure if it's the questions themselves that are clean or less-clean. I think it has more to do with the intentions and/or ulterior motives of the person asking the questions. To...
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    Four Minutes, Thirty-Three Seconds

    For me, clean is like “Four minutes, thirty-three seconds” by John Cage.

    Note: What I’m not sure about, in this metaphor, is whether the facilitator is the audience or the performer. Or the...
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    Stories from David

    I found these when I was looking through my files recently. David told me these stories in December 1992; he got them from his mentor, Bill Rawlins.

    A man had to go on a journey, and the journey...
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    An empty stage

    Okay, first of all, it's not difficult to come up with a metaphor for clean. What's difficult is to narrow it down to one. So here's my first one, and there will be others, as I can articulate...
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    Separate Thread for Metaphors?

    Phil,

    In the above thread, there is mention made of a separate thread for the metaphors of clean. Am I missing that somewhere on the site? Or is it integrated within this thread?

    Just...
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    Wish I Could Be There

    Quel dommage! Je suis désolé, mais je n'ai pas le choix.

    Sounds like it will be a very fascinating discussion to experience. I wish I could come, but I'm stuck stateside for awhile due to work...
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    Thank You, John

    Thanks ever so much for your comments, John. Yours is the first "overview" I've seen for how these techniques relate to each other--it's difficult to get a sense for the whole when each...
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