Forum: Clean Space

When dealing (A) with a problem (B), it is either something that happened, happens, or is likely to happen Past: how does the problem affect you right now? Present: how does the problem affect you right now? Future: how does the problem affect you right now? --> Great!: any problem can be...

When I was listening to a demo of Angela conducting an EK coaching session, I noticed the client (said she) looked out of the window and visioned her goal on the top of the hill. She was then asked to put it on a post-it, which she put on the window. Later on in the session it turned out that...

(Antonio Damasio): "Once we think that we are about to perform an action, the brain has already started that action." If we were to start a clean space process by moving around randomly, without thinking, what would that learn about our unconscious intentions?

"The ghost moon sails among the clouds Turns the rifles into silver." Columbus knows this part of the Atlantic Ocean and he has read in some library stories from the Basks and other fishing tribes that there is something on the other side. This knowledge is sort of lost in time, so he is...

Hi Steve, You add 'to' to the question of "And how do you know when?": "and how do you know when to ...?". This takes it into the future instead of into the past and is about a scenario instead of a memory. Clean Space is about retrieving memories: situational/sensory cues may trigger...

(The questions and structure are mine; the text is David's, April 2005) Boundary = interaction /connection What does the space know? What is the intelligence that sits within the boundary? Where is the boundary? The first part of the journey is to find a boundary. This will usually...

Recently I spent some time with a friend in a place where she obviously needed to avoid one particular space. She could see it from her window, she walked up there once and put her hands on the rock, but then stayed away from it. She didn't mind others occupying the space. What would be a good...

From: Stephen Wolfram: A New Kind of Science Wolfram Media, Inc. ISBN 1-57 955-8, 2002, page 193 Network Systems "A network system is fundamentally just a collection of nodes with various connections between these nodes, and rules that specify how these connections should change from one...

Greetings Everyone Have you ever used the clean-space modality with a group, in other words facilitating a process with all the members of the group simultaneously? Is it even possible? First some background, I did clean-language & symbolic modelling training with Wendy Sullivan some...

During a recent Developing Group where Penny and James were looking at the parallels in language between the Clean Language, Clean Space and the Power of Six snapshots of David's work, I was struck by the emphasis on the word 'know' in the latter two developments. Both processes, and perhaps...

Steve (notes from a session with David): "The precise orientation and body posture is required to access a particular experience. Slight changes in twist, angle, elevation, range, feet, hands, back, neck, knees of the client observer." In a clean space set-up much attention is given to the...

Penny Tompkins and James Lawley say in their article "Clean Space: Modeling Human Perception through Emergence" (2003): "Whenever we see something, we see it somewhere; whenever we hear a sound, it's coming from somewhere; and whenever we touch something, we feel it somewhere. Likewise, whenever...

Some questions to start us off asking about moving through space: When client is moving body or part of body: 'And hand, foot, eyes, torso, etc] moving?' 'And anything else about moving ?' 'And what kind of moving ?'

Oxford Dictionary: Quote: Coincide: Occupy same portion of space; occur at and occupy same time; agree together or with; concur in opinion, etc. Coincidence: (Instance of) being coincident; notable concurrence of events in circumstances without apparent causal connexion. What is the...

Another snippet of email conversation for you to read and reply to. On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 11:43 AM, phil wrote: In that we use metaphors of space to refer to time (next, after, before, run out of time, be in time, etc), we can use Clean Space to explore time cleanly. "Find a...

Steve: "Why does the whirly-gig work, and when should it be used? a) complex numbers for a complex world - spinning in a psychoactive space is like going round a spiral staircase - technically its called a Riemann Surface. b)Once the information has been fully uploaded and networking is starting...

I have always had a sense that the Clean Space process question 'find a space' is misnamed. For me, 'space' is what we move around within and 'place' is a 'where' within that space. Moving happens in relation to space and time: no time and matter is still; no space, no matter so nothing...

Time is an asymmetrical dimension and the only way we know time passes is because things change. We do not know what was before and at the beginning, because it is beyond our perceptional horizon. But the laws of entropy dictate that even cycles have a singular start and do not go on forever: we...

At our practise group on Tuesday I we were looking at space work and two questions came up. 1. How often do you ask the question about moving to another space? “is there a space that knows about that, and can you goto that space” In David’s Emergence work you work on getting to the client to...

Dear James, Of all the qualities I admire in you, I didn’t know yet (I should have guessed though) about your ability to relate difficult neurobiological information to clean questioning. I remember our first dialogue on the subject of clean space, when we discussed the bottum-up process of...

Hi all, From sunny Somerset; my wife Karen and I have started using 'clean space' in with our horse work. We are presently (under David’s guidance) SETTING 'B' the issue/goal as the horse. Then using clean questions and space work to see what develops. Edge of the seat so far!! A horse reacts...

Workshop clean space At the 15th congres of the Dutch Institute for Eclectic Psychology (April 14, 2007), Maaike Nooitgedagt en Annemiek van Helsdingen gave a workshop clean space. They demonstrated the process and then split the group into pairs of two to try it for themselves. In the...

As we ask a client to ‘find another space’ that knows about…….., they are making the space psyco-active. Each space holds information, develops their metaphor and they gain new insights. Each of the spaces is related to the other. I’m interested in how we go about developing the client’s...

Is this just me getting obsessed with the "me" that is working out the spatial layout of my landscape?

Dear James, In our previous discussion with Phil on this forum: 'Perceiver - Object - Space of A' you contributed a formula: '{ Context}'. Fritjof Capra (The Web of Life, 1996) distinguishes two great strands of systemic thinking: contextual and process thinking. "Every structure is seen...

And when you get what you want or need, then what happens? And when , what kind of you would you be?

I am extremely fortunate to find myself living in a cottage with a superb view (www.reframe.net/webcam.htm to see a bit of it) I was seeing a client there yesterday for a 'day' session (11am - 4pm with lunch) and we did an hour's Clean Space at the end. I was struck by how she integrated the...

In current Clean Space methodology, when a client moves to a new space, the model currently provides for asking either:</P> "What does this space know?" or "What do you know from here?" I am not very sure when to use one or the other or why I would differentiate, except on a whim. For...

Below is a recent e-dialogue between Corrie van Wijk and myself. I have edited it into 9 sections based on the questions and comments in Corrie's first email. James Lawley SECTION 1 CORRIE Hi James and Penny, Below are my comments on your Clean Space article (see...