Where in the world is David Grove?

[ps]

Like the truth and the X-files, David Grove is out there, somewhere.

You can report sightings here by adding a new topic.

[Corrie van Wijk]

Last seen with the 3-D spin!

[phil]

You certainly leave cryptic posts, Corrie. I have no idea what that meant - can you explain please?


Phil

[phil]

David Grove is currently in England near London where he is engaged with explorations of all sorts of interesting directions that his mind shows him, still mostly related to space but with a renewed interest in language too I think.


Phil

[Corrie van Wijk]

A 3D-spin is something you can sit in, and move around in any direction, horizontally, vertically and anything in between, just to get the right position to B. Like the egg tent, one of David's latest toys.

[Corrie van Wijk]

P.S.: It's called a 'whirligig'.

[Corrie van Wijk]

Latest spotting: upside down

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

No Corrie i think it was you that was up side down he only appeared to be inverted :) I know i was holding him up :D


John Farrell

[phil]

John, if you lent David a pen or something and you want it back, just ask him, I'm sure he won't mind. All this turning people upside down and shaking to see what comes out of their pockets went out with Jennings and Billy Bunter!

http://www.cleanforum.com/images/upsidedownsmiley.gif

Phil

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

Phil,
Davids latest devices shakes them to see what comes out of their heads - we call it 'clean head space'.:eek:
I'm safe I've been keeping mine empty for years.:confused:

John Farrell

[Corrie van Wijk]

No John, I'm positive, I was upright: it's courageous enough for me to go with you and David in a car; I'm happy just moving around. But hadn't it been for you to brake completely, I might have been upside down in a hospital, so thank you for keeping your mind empty and concentrate on the traffic.

Love,

Corrie

P.S. Have these brand new authentic leaders gone into the world, like Spain and Washington, yet?

[phil]

LOL! John, your post brings to my similarly-vacated cerebrum the germ of an idea... With the wealthy world seemingly more and more fascinated by gizmos and gadgets, we could make our fortunes marketing modelling gadgets to the writhing masses. Try these adverts for size:

"You remember 'turn on, tune in and drop out'? Well, forget it! The phrase for 2007 is 'pay up, plug in and psych out' with the ultimate techno-psycho-prono-combo set from Hope LS Products! Next year's must-have pocket-sized trender-bender is called:

iDentity

Are your parts in a punch-up? Are your several selves at sixes and sixes? Well, don't stand for it! What are you - pronoun - or no-noun? Don't let the bucks stop there - one swipe of your card and ontological optimism will reign! Be You for Christmas - buy today!

iDentity comprises 3 neat and sexy pronoun-promoting devices for the discerning ID-challenged person:

iBod
meBod
myselfBod

Simply attach the wires and press the iNtegrate button and... Voila! You are One!

This matching set comes in ivory, bronze and super-cool titanium and is complete with chargers, earphones and electrodes. Batteries not required(powered with life force). Can be used separately or clicked together for the full Plug-And-Be iDentity experience!"

Other devices in the pipeline:

"Sox-Up - discreetly nestling in the lower legs of your trousers, your paired Sox-Up devices monitor the height of your chosen foot textiles relative to your ankles and alert you if levels fall dangerously low. No-one will ever have to say to you again: "Look, just pull your socks up!" NB Doesn't work with tights."

"Head-Vac: just suck out those negative thoughts and replace them with serene positivity (Positivitee Head-Vac Packs TM sold separately) - it'll really be a case of 'in one ear and out the other'! Book now and win a free course in Hawaii!"

Anyone else got any suggestions for the product range?

:)

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

David is running a course in France until Sunday when he's back in Glastonbury for his next course 16-19 of November.

[Corrie van Wijk]

Est-ce que ces chaussettes rouges ont emportées ces boîtes de déménagement, alors qu'on pourrait déménager, ou sont-ils déménagées a la cloche de bois?

[forumadmin]

Hi Corrie


Est-ce que ces chaussettes rouges ont emportées ces boîtes de déménagement, alors qu'on pourrait déménager, ou sont-ils déménagées a la cloche de bois?

Could you provide us with a translation or move this to the Other Languages section? Thanks

Phil

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

Hi Phil,
Corrie is on a course here with David this weekend i will have her reTranslated. Actually thats what we are doing on Davids course this weekend in Glastonbury. Retranslating his ideas into a usable form for someone like me who still struggles to find 'B' when 'A' keeps waking up. :p

cheers All

[Corrie van Wijk]

Have these red socks taken those 36 removal boxes, so one can move, or have they disappeared into nowhere?

P.S. the red socks have turned black, and the hat is new.

[forumadmin]

Perhaps this is code?

Deep in the dark of the Normandy forests, a recently disenterred wireless set crackles. In the sudden glow of a cigarette, a group of serious faces lean in to the tiny loudspeaker. "This... crackle... BBC Home service. Here... fizz... buzz... message for our friends in France: The red socks have turned black, and the hat is new"

"What does it mean, Jacques?" says a voice in the darkness.

Click. A hand-shrouded torch dimly illuminates a small notebook. Pages turn, then stop. Click. Darkness is restored.

"Mon Dieu!" breathes Jacques into the silent forest. "Monsieur Grove... he arrives by parachute... tonight!"

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

David hosted another successful workshop this weekend where we explored the finesse of delivering simple questions. We sometimes forget the huge impact the simple questions have on the unsuspecting (and suspecting) client.

Lots of stories about Normandy even some French – is that keeping clean if the client can’t understand what your saying, however makes their own assumptions and answer accordingly?:confused:

David’s leaving Glastonbury today (I think) ........... destination ?

Have a great week
John

[forumadmin]

John, yes much confusion here too over the French statement, not much helped when it went into English. Sorry for my flippant reply - off topic. I could remove the entire exchange but there are snippets from you therein. Thanks for resolutely letting us know what David is doing and exploring.

forumadmin

[Corrie van Wijk]

Removal boxes removed; furniture moved with happy hat; Dutch lady helped to move along by New Zealand AA, moved her.

[Hatch]

Where ever he is we miss him here over the pond. Does the whirlygig float?

[caitlinwalker]

I spoke to him yesterday. He's coming over next week to play with different uk and french folk. We're discussing clean language/systemic modelling/feedback/cleancoaching and turning a whole university department into a 'learning system'.
He said he plans to go to the states soon. Have you managed to speak directly with him? Can I pass your details on to him?
Caitlin

[Corrie van Wijk]

David has arrived at Jerry's, probably heading for Steve's soon: I'm sure you'll all be curious about the latest developments!

[JamesLawley]

David's USA schedule is at:

http://www.stevenbriggsphd.com/index.php?page=events

but be quick, he'd only there for a few more weeks.

[Corrie van Wijk]

Dear J&P and Phil,

Didn't I just show you how easy it is to find David?

You give away his position by using your magical wand and I can just apparate right in front of him!

Corrie

[caitlinwalker]

Following a lovely relaxed retreat last week, David's offering a 2 day Healing retreat 18/19 August in Liverpool with 6 degrees of freedom and lots of other lovely attention.
There are beautiful B&B's in the area with views over the estuary.
He's around and available for 1-1's until then before he flies this coup for France and then the US.
07977225874 to book in.
Caitlin

[Corrie van Wijk]

David is suspended in limbo between Disappartion and Apparition, showing up unexpectedly, taking some gear, leaving other behind, having record him while he's not there, reunite with related people, but I'm sure he'll touch ground near the Chapel, in order to move on to the sacred Mountain.

[caitlinwalker]

Last I heard David is in France playing with friends, being recorded and filmed and generally scheming.

He'll go from there back to the US to continue his work 1-1 and training.
Caitlin

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

So where is David still hidding in deepest France? Will he stop over in the uK on the way back? will his book be published this year?
"and is there anything else"

[Corrie van Wijk]

Everywhere in the world, in our hearts.

Corrie

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

yes, in all of us that he touched and all those he will in the future

[Corrie van Wijk]

I'm sure together we'll be able to keep his memory alive with all the stories of the man he was. "Thank you for having been who you are" is what he said and would have said to all of us.

Corrie

[Corrie van Wijk]

A little breeze made the water jump and reflect the sun as to greet David when he was brought home. At night the southern sky shined in full armour to watch over him and his family. Oh, boy, would you have wanted to live much longer! Would you have been cross if you realized this was it! Which voices carried you into eternity? Did you hear them call you back? We lost you for ever David: may your body rest in peace, may your soul linger among your ancestors and generations to come, may your spirit be an inspiration to everyone seeking to relieve human suffering.

Corrie

[Corrie van Wijk]

David is at the Marae in Matapihi right now. As from now there will be a leaving ceremony and we’ll all go to the Citadel.

Yesterday we were welcomed at the Waikari Marae. The elderly people spoke at turns and they were supported by songs.

We spent the day talking to David and with eachother. Children were playing at the lawn and little Grover was as sweet as any baby, feeding on his mothers breast, sleeping and practising for its first steps to come with ‘uncle’ James.

Davids uncle explained the Maori ceremonies to us and said that even today David was teaching us. And indeed, it was like hearing David lecture on clean space, when he talked about the sacred space between the hosts and the guests. Having your ancestors around you in pictures on the wall is the Maori way of connecting the living with the dead. Now doesn’t that sound familiar?

Sylvie shared with us how David was enjoying life in France the last couple of months.

Many of your contributions on the cleanforum were read out loud so in a way you were all present. We'll keep printing them and put them in a book for the family. Be with us!

Corrie

[Corrie van Wijk]

So we all gathered in the Citadel. Words were spoken, pictures showed and songs were sung. David was thrilled by the huge drum his brother played ("The day David comes home").

Whakaaria Mai, tou ripeka ki au
Tiaho mai ra roto i te po
Kei konei au, titiro atu ai
Ora mate, hei au koe noho ai.

(IO, when I in awesome wonder
Consider all the works Thy hand has made
I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder
Thy pow'r throughout the universe displayed.)

We accompanied him to Pyes Pa Cemetery: the sky was crying as it was pooring rain; how appropriate to have that arranged for after two weeks of beautiful weather ('Oh, you're welcome', he would have said.)

As he always loved the beach, we laid shells on his coffin and left him there in peace.

David John Grove, the best psychotherapist in the world: don't expect him to show up unexpectedly: Jezus will be proud of him.

Corrie

[Corrie van Wijk]

A little angel from the US put shells and flowers in.

Thank you,

Corrie

P.S. For anyone who would like to send flowers as well: there is a little flower shop just across the road. If you send an e-mail to sharoneveellis@hotmail.com, attention Di, they'll take care of it and put them on the grave (6:30). The fax-numer is +64(0)7-5431360 (house), telephone +64(0)7-5432159 (shop) or mobile +64(0)2762622496. (The lady looked trustworthy and respectful to me.)

[JamesLawley]

I have many reasons to be grateful to you Corrie. Not least for your previous postings to this forum which help keep David's ideas and multiple perspectives alive, but in particular your postings since David's death. Thanks for giving people a sense of his funeral. And putting together a book of tributes for the family was a touching gesture.

I enjoyed the evening after David's burial when you, I and most of the overseas contingent got together for a meal on a boat. Even from the dozen of us gathered together for the last supper there were an endless supply of stories and reminisces about David - the old man would have loved it.

I didn't want to leave Tauranga because I knew it meant accepting a reality I didn't want to have to face. And having just arrived home, I don't want to be here for the same reason.

I would like to honour that aspect of you that knew so surely that David could support your personal journey like no one else on the planet - and your tenacity for making sure that it happened. In this respect at least, you and I, and many other souls, are alike: we all knew we were in the presence of someone especially special.

James