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Michael Leroux
15-01-2004, 09:36 PM
I have a client who for what ever reason does not respond to Symbolic Modelling. When I first used clean space, she moved into a corner, roled into a fital position and cried for 1/2 hour. Since that time clean space have been used several more time, I believe effectively, and she has communicated that it is very very helpful. the corner is called her safety space and each time clean space is used after examining and going to other spaces she ends up in her "safety space" and cries. So now it's a little joke at the start of each session. she start by saying "I don't want to cry today" or "it's ok if I cry and it's ok if I examine some more spaces". Now given that she wants to use clean space and she is aware that she has her safety space to cry, we do use clean space.
My assumption about clean space is their is some dissociation going on (maybe maybe not) thus the client is somewhat removed from their feelings, why the crying and weeping? Are strong emotional expression while using clean space commom?

Michael Leroux

Corrie van Wijk
16-01-2004, 10:23 AM
Why do humans withdraw when they are sad?

Why do they feel vulnarable?

Clean Space makes perfect sense when you need a place to hide!

What makes a space feel safe?

What's the use of hiding?

What's the use of crying?

"And when [client's words or nonverbals] ... where do you go?"

"What would your like to have happen [...] together with what?"

Corrie van Wijk
16-01-2004, 03:01 PM
Moving in space means dissociating from one space into associating in another. Why would you be dissociated when you're crying?

Corrie van Wijk
18-01-2004, 08:32 PM
Moving in space provides you with visual, auditory, etc. information that you don't get in position I. If you go somewhere else, you get new information. David calls this 'reversed association'.