Clean posture

[Corrie van Wijk]

Steve: "Why does the whirly-gig work, and when should it be used?
a) complex numbers for a complex world - spinning in a psychoactive space is like going round a spiral staircase - technically its called a Riemann Surface.
b)Once the information has been fully uploaded and networking is starting to happen, and in cases where the directions of focus are the important factors, and when unconsciousness is involved - body movement due to coma, operations, anaesthetic effects."

I've always been amazed by the results from anyone having been in the whirly-gig (gyroscoop). People climb out of it, wiping off their tears, smiling, saying thanks to David and walk away. Problem solved!

I think the whirly-gig works as well when a specific posture holds the memory.

Would anyone share their experience?

[super_yacht@hotmail.com]

Just a quick comment, they usually walk away and have a sleep, in Glastonbury we needed a quite place for them to take a short time out? There mind closed down, David suggested, to do the processing needed after the spinning.
More later

[phil]

I've never used the whirlygig, mean to have a go sometime. I wonder how much it will be like flying my glider - does one experience acceleration? There is certainly a therapeutic effect for me in the movement and acceleration/deceleration and the angles attained. Flying chandelles (dive to attain speed, pull up fairly steeply, as you slow down, boot the rudder, fly round 180 deg and end up facing down again, repeat until satisfied :) or trees looking big :eek:) creates all kinds of complex emotions, mostly lovely ones! I'm sorry I never got to take David up as we intended.

Respectfully, 'posture' for me (in the title of the thread) seems more associated with training one's body to hold a particular position, e.g. as taught at a finishing school for young ladies! We use 'attitude' to describe the angle of an aircraft with respect to the ground. 'Clean attitude' sounds like a mental state though. Clean angling... sounds fishy... clean angles?

[Corrie van Wijk]

Phil: 'posture' for me (in the title of the thread) seems more associated with training one's body to hold a particular position."

You're right about that Phil: one can only 'sit' in the whirly-gig and for some people another posture might be more relevant. You only need an aid when it is something that you cannot do on the ground, like hanging up-side down. Also, like you describe, the kind of movement is important, like to be rocked.

John: "they usually walk away and have a sleep, in Glastonbury we needed a quite place for them to take a short time out? There mind closed down, David suggested, to do the processing needed after the spinning."

That is true for every kind of process that has an impact, especially on the lymbic system, and is not specific for the whirly-gig. And just as well I've seen people easily jump in their car and drive a few hours home. May-be we can discuss this in another thread.

[BobGorman]

Wow is this personal. Two linked associations came up for me as I read this.

1. The traditional 'stand up straight'.
Parents and teachers tend to force this on youngsters, always telling you 'it's good for you' but never saying why. So you obey to please them and/or avoid embarrassment and/or physical torture (I had Catholic nuns in grade school). But this creates a rebound effect, once you're no longer under the tyrant, you defy them and practice poor posture. Bummer!

Since I watch the National Geographic Channel a lot I thought of an alternative way to introduce this topic. Have kids try to balance a jug of water on their heads. This gives it a more natural setting, and encourages not just the straight spine, but also left-right balance. I wish I had had that experience. It might have made a significant difference in my life.

2. Balance.
I've had problems with physical balance all of my life. And perhaps a few life style balances, mental & emotional also! :mad: As a kid I never learned to ride a 2 wheel bike, but loved my tricycle, I love speed. But it became a personal obsession to master the Motorcycle. When I was about 25, I went into a local Honda motorcycle dealer and asked about their motorcycles. The owner rolled a new bike out to the street, left me with it and went back inside. Not good. I tried and aborted a few attempts to ride it. Then I went back into the store, and when no customers were within earshot asked the owner, sheepishly, "Do you give riding lessons?" He wasn't surprised and for the next 3 Saturdays we went behind a local school and he tried to teach me to ride. Frustrated, he told me: "Why don't you learn to ride a bicycle first and come back in about a year?" Bad advice! Many bicycles, torn pants and scraped knees later I still couldn't balance. My terror was a left-right terror, I couldn't lean into a turn!

Fast forward to age 50+. I'd divorced my first wife and spent a good portion of my summers with my youngest son, who was about 14, camping and just exploring the world. Well he also loved motorcycles, so I bought him one, but had to keep it at my place, so my ex wouldn't find out. When he wasn't there I tried, and tried, and tried to learn how to ride it. But it didn't work. To add insult to injury, he got on and rode off like it was a part of him, God bless him!

Onward to another of my 'must do' experiences before I die. Flying a plane, specifically a glider. I don't like the noise, vibration, and danger of gasoline engines, and I want to get as close as I can to being a bird. Well after 10-15 lessons I was doing fairly well but couldn't do my turns well. In a glider, the only 'gas' you have is energy, so you need to conserve it wisely. Bad turns, either too wide or too narrow lose energy, is a NO-NO. One day as I was walking towards the glider, an older pilot, about 84, at the time, came to me and said "Think about taking a motorcycle around a turn".
It worked! On that flight and all following flights I did my turns correctly. BUT, I couldn't take a real motorcycle around a turn! So my mental imagery of doing the turn, exceeded my physical ability to do that turn. Sports psychologists confirm this, that mental practice can often meet or even exceed physical practice.

So when and where do we learn to balance too much work with too little work. Too much food with too little food. Too many relationships with too few. Too much intrusion into a clients world - being un-clean; with too little, not offering them the wisdom we have learned in our lives. Ooh that sounds blasphemous - intruding into a clients world! But if you've ever raised children, I have 5, and 4 grandchildren, you know that you need, if you truly care, to sometimes TELL them what to do!

Perhaps we might ask Goldilocks, who knew that sometimes the porridge is too hot, sometimes too cold, and sometimes just right!

And in social situations, do we sometimes project an overly rigid posture?
Holding our minds and/or emotions in a particular rigid position.

Bob