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caitlinwalker
27-01-2007, 09:01 PM
We are working on a number of projects using clean language with trainee teachers at Liverpool John Moores University.
The university has just presented an abstract to the British Educational Research Association on using our clean feedback model in teacher training. I'm really excited because it will be a great opportunity to have clean questions used in a non-therapeutic arena and carefully evaluated.
Anyone else using it in education?
Steve Saunders
02-02-2008, 07:18 PM
Hi Caitlin,
Josie has been using CL to help home educate Anthony and a friend of his.
Also we have had success eliminating dyslexia using spinning on a number of people now.
love Steven
caitlinwalker
03-02-2008, 06:59 AM
Hello Steve,
Dyslexia has been a big area of interest to us. How are you evaluating dyslexia prior and post spinning to establish that it has been eliminated?
We've got a number of results in this area applying self-modelling, magical spelling and some work in the whirly gig. Our preliminary findings are that we are updating very different underlying patterns - not one condition.
What are your learnings?
Best wishes
Caitlin
Steve Saunders
03-02-2008, 03:05 PM
Hi Caitlin,
Yes, loads of different underlying conditions.
Primarily though one pattern emerges: the brain's 2 sides measure either location or movement. When a child is taught to read words with an adult's moving finger the movement side is activated, resulting in movement functions when reading or recalling later on.
By spinning, the movement is unmeasured and location-based learning can happen.
so it is the trauma of the parent's finger moving across the page - instead if a parent points word by word there is no dyslexia.
that is it so far!
AGREED loads of conditions covered by an overall label.
love Steven
Nancy
10-03-2008, 02:27 PM
Hi Steve and Caitlin
Fascinated by the 'adult moving finger' approach to dyslexia. Words and letters that move around are only one aspect of the dyslexic spectrum and this phenomenon is also tackled by optometrists with the idea that the problem relates to the high contrast between black and white. From this perspective the problem can be ameliorated by presenting words on pastel coloured paper or using a light coloured acetate overlay.
I think dyslexia is a fascinating study for systemic thinking and modeling because it is always unique to the person and made up of many component, interrelated strength and weakness patterns. I really enjoy the idea of finding different levers that would bring new ideas into the system so that it could shift - and spinning was certainly not one I would have thought of!
Thanks for sharing
Nancy
Steve Saunders
13-03-2008, 09:14 AM
Hi Nancy,
I've not worked with that kind of dyslexia (colour contrast change amelioriates kind) but I would still conduct a thought experiment as to the conditions that create this particular condition. Why would one person have this and another person not?
What gives rise to an ability to discern letters and words through colour but not black and white? After all, snow is natural in extreme lattitudes, so black and white scenes must be in our evolutionary past. Perhaps it relates physically to ratios of cones and rods - is there a correlation with poor night vision and high colour sensitivity or colour discernment?
Did the child have coloured bricks with letters on as a baby? Maybe they first learnt seeing the letters on blue and yellow bricks and so there is a contextual confusion when they see the letters on white? Does this at all correlate with red-green colour blindness?
See the world from the baby/toddler world view; were they being asked to read too young, stressing the eyes and the processing of contrast?
I feel that spinning might still address this with the "right" loading first. Any other possible cause scenarios?
A general solution is the emergent inner child work to reconnect to the self prior to reading problems.
Nancy
13-03-2008, 02:26 PM
is the proper title in case you want to research further. I'm not too sure about where the idea comes from but I know it's not widely acceptable in optometry OR dyslexia circles though I have observed it work many times myself.
In visual processing development high contrast is the ONLY thing newborns can see so I wonder if the condition arises in some way from an arrested development at this stage?
The high contrast between black on white as opposed to black on pale pink give the appearance of the black item (usually a letter or number) flickering around (focus shifting between left and right eye?). If a child has mainly seen words with this flicker, the natural learning of words into visual memory will have been compromised. It is also very tiring for the eyes and so the association with reading and writing will be that it is hard work, which will affect motivation and concentration. This can lead to dyslexic symptoms.
In my view, this kind of etiology for dyslexia is very different to dyslexia where scoptropic symtoms are not present. There may be many routes leading to similar problems. the traditional diagnosis for dyslexia using IQ tests simply requires there to be a huge disparity in the scores for different types of intelligence (a 'spikey profile') and it is not necessary for the dyslexic to have reading or writing problems.
Dyslexia is a very specific pattern of thought, in terms of it's traditional diagnosis, however the term is used these days to encompass all manner of learning difficulties in order to secure funding. Most of these, as we both have found, can be improved using a modelling or NLP-based approach and we really out to do more writing on the subject. I've got one case study on our website but many more stories of using clean language wth dyslexia.
Let me know if you have any thoughts on that!
Steve Saunders
14-03-2008, 08:28 AM
I would like to see:
a collation of the symptoms in one file / area
a collation of causes (established by different modelling forms)
a gathering of other relevant information
an analysis of common causes for more procedural-teach-able solutions
and then a workshop with volunteer dyslexic clients and a few of us interested folk facilitating the navigating / self modelling to test out the procedures and a back-up inner child facilitation
Or whas this "what would I like to have happen?"
I agree that dyslexia and probably all other "conditions" are unbrella definitions covering a large number of completely different causes symptomology and required facilitations. Absolutely!
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